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Message 612 - Posted: 30 Nov 2024, 12:53:32 UTC

As I have just seen, you have Gaia 4 WUs back up and running. These provide far too few credits. Compared to Gaia 6 Wus, they only provide half as many credits. In order to achieve a balance with the previously calculated Gais 6 Wus, the Gaia 4 Wus would have to provide twice as many credits as they do now.
This is what it looks like on my computer so far

Runtime 1 Wu Credits 1 Wu Secunds per Cr Should be Cr
12000 200 60
360 3 120 6
1000 7 142.85 16.67

This would provide the same proportion of credits for all calculations.

Thank you in advance.
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Message 613 - Posted: 30 Nov 2024, 13:31:04 UTC

I'm just disappointed that the several minute run time of the Gaia 4 tasks interrupted several hour Gaia 6 tasks, and thus restarted from 0, due to the shorter deadline.
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Message 614 - Posted: 30 Nov 2024, 13:50:55 UTC - in response to Message 613.  

I fixed it.
Thanks for information.
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Message 615 - Posted: 30 Nov 2024, 14:34:16 UTC - in response to Message 613.  
Last modified: 30 Nov 2024, 14:38:37 UTC

I'm just disappointed that the several minute run time of the Gaia 4 tasks interrupted several hour Gaia 6 tasks, and thus restarted from 0, due to the shorter deadline.

I would propose that the Gaia 6 tasks are still running regardless of what BOINC Manager says. Unfortunately, It's been my experience that Gaia 6 tasks don't honor suspension requests from BOINC.

EDIT: Yep, just confirmed that I have 41 Gaia processes running (both 4 and 6) on a 32 thread machine even though BOINC Manager says 9 are "waiting to run"
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Message 616 - Posted: 1 Dec 2024, 9:30:16 UTC - in response to Message 614.  

I fixed it.
Thanks for information.

I think you didnt change the credit system...
I will do my work to 1.ooo.ooo Cr and then stop and will never goto your Homepage....
I hope you enjoy
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Message 617 - Posted: 1 Dec 2024, 9:56:30 UTC - in response to Message 616.  

Sorry, the previous post "fixed" was about the calculation time, now I fixed the credits
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Message 618 - Posted: 1 Dec 2024, 10:12:01 UTC - in response to Message 617.  

Sorry, the previous post "fixed" was about the calculation time, now I fixed the credits

That would be fine
Thx
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Message 619 - Posted: 2 Dec 2024, 8:23:35 UTC

Or you can not care about silly internet points and be happy that this project is growing and we have two apps to crunch. Thanks zupa, and as always, as a fellow UAM guy, I am willing to give any help I can :)
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Message 620 - Posted: 2 Dec 2024, 11:03:12 UTC

Can an option to select which tasks we want to run be placed in our Account preferences please.

I have a Ryzen 5900X which is not liking your 4_Gaia work units.
It takes up to 1.5 hours to run a work unit and I get from 6 to 12 points per work unit with an occasional 16 points thrown in.
They were getting around 26 points (still low) but this has been halved or even less.
They aren't worth doing on this computer for 6 points.

The 6_Gaia take just over 3 hours for 200 points so I would rather do them please.
I might start aborting the 4's.

This is just on this one computer, with the option to pick work unit type I could avoid the 4_Gaia work units.

I don't know why the credit value has been dropped on this computer.

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Message 621 - Posted: 2 Dec 2024, 11:15:30 UTC - in response to Message 620.  

I agree with Conan, it would be great to have an option to pick which subproject we want to run. The 6's also are better points/time for me as well.
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Message 622 - Posted: 2 Dec 2024, 12:14:55 UTC - in response to Message 620.  


I have a Ryzen 5900X which is not liking your 4_Gaia work units.
It takes up to 1.5 hours to run a work unit and I get from 6 to 12 points per work unit with an occasional 16 points thrown in.
Conan



That's interesting, I'm doing 4_Gaia in 20 minutes on my ancient Xeon E3-1275L.
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Message 623 - Posted: 2 Dec 2024, 12:16:11 UTC - in response to Message 621.  

Credit was calculated base on number of input photometric points for calculating.
It is no scaled by procesor or computer parameters.
Each photometric points have the same calculations time, so the scale is linear.
The job generator get from database input file with x points.
Next, the credit=x/50.

Maybe better will be use x/25 .....
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Message 624 - Posted: 2 Dec 2024, 12:23:08 UTC - in response to Message 623.  

The statistics form server for Gaia4:
CPUhours grantedcredit
0.4 51.000
0.7 32.000
2.1 38.000
0.4 32.000
0.4 32.000
0.2 8.000
0.7 38.000
0.6 38.000
0.7 38.000
0.6 38.000
0.6 38.000
0.6 38.000
0.4 28.000
0.4 28.000
0.9 58.000
0.4 36.000
0.4 32.000
0.7 34.000
0.4 36.000
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Message 629 - Posted: 2 Dec 2024, 23:57:58 UTC

I would also like an app selection in preferences. I am near my WUProp hours goal for Gaia 6 so will no longer want those tasks.
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Message 635 - Posted: 3 Dec 2024, 14:26:02 UTC - in response to Message 629.  

I would also like an app selection in preferences. I am near my WUProp hours goal for Gaia 6 so will no longer want those tasks.

I would like the app selection feature as well. I will hit the 100,000 hour goal this morning and will then move to another project until the selection feature becomes available.
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Message 636 - Posted: 3 Dec 2024, 15:25:22 UTC - in response to Message 629.  

I would also like an app selection in preferences. I am near my WUProp hours goal for Gaia 6 so will no longer want those tasks.

+1
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Message 638 - Posted: 3 Dec 2024, 15:50:07 UTC - in response to Message 629.  

I would also like an app selection in preferences. I am near my WUProp hours goal for Gaia 6 so will no longer want those tasks.


That's my motive as well!!
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Message 639 - Posted: 3 Dec 2024, 16:54:01 UTC - in response to Message 638.  

I change settings ....

Is it works now ?
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Message 641 - Posted: 3 Dec 2024, 17:24:00 UTC - in response to Message 639.  

Doesn't seem to work when I go to the project preference setting menu. I see error message pertaining to your project file selection setup in "project_specfic_prefs.inc" See below

Notice: Constant APP_SELECT_PREFS already defined in /opt/projects/gaiaathome/html/project/project_specific_prefs.inc on line 48[/url]
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Message 642 - Posted: 3 Dec 2024, 17:44:19 UTC - in response to Message 641.  

and now ?
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